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flavor tripping, seasteading

I went to a flavor tripping party at nasu_dengaku's place. Lots of familiar faces... savorie, weiskind, browascension, crazimilk, geheimnisnacht, veleda, foxgrrl, crasch, plymouth, avani, traumentwerfer, djdigit, zellandyne, Brad Templeton, and Kathryn Myronuk, just to name a few! I think it was one of those parties, like the last OgDorm party I went to in LA, where there was a critical mass of everyone from everywhere, and everyone seemed to have an lj. My apologies to anyone who noticed that I had a tad more to drink than I should have by the end of the night. I only get that carried away when the crowd is just right, so take it as a compliment. :) Surprisingly, I felt fine in the morning.

And yes, the Miracle Fruit works just as it is described in the New York Times article... it makes any sort of intense flavor, especially sour or vinegary (I think it's the acid), taste super-sweet. Eating lemons tastes like eating candy... I couldn't taste the sourness of them at all. We tried a whole buffet of foods, and some of them... such as Sardines... didn't seem to be affected. The lemons, limes, and strawberries were the sweetest to me. And the pickled stuff was amazing because it didn't taste like vinegar any more. You can order the fruit in tablet form online at http://www.buy-miracle-fruit.com/miracle-fruit.html, if you want to throw your own parties.

That was a week and a half ago. Then on Friday, I went to the First Annual Seasteading Conference, hosted by patrissimo, xleste, crasch, and a guy named Wayne whom I hadn't met before. xleste was kind enough to host geheimnisnacht and I so we didn't have to find a hotel or get up at the crack of dawn. Met peter_bayesian in person for the first time there. Seemed like an interesting mix of people... both those interested in limited government, as well as those interested in new ocean technologies. Overall, I feel a lot more excited about Seasteading than I did before I came. I meant to plug it before coming, so that it could possibly entice more people to go, but I was so busy I didn't get around to posting about it till now.

I won't go into the details, but you can read about them here. The most interesting part to me, that I hadn't heard about before... was Ephemerisle. As patrissimo describes it, basically "let's start a new Burning Man, but in the water instead of the desert"... starting as early as possibly next year. Where the theme is "radical self government" rather than "radical self reliance", subtlely different, but almost the same idea. At first, it would be once a year and the hope is that people would start to want to stay there year-round after a while and a permanent anarchist community would form. It's much cheaper and a more incremental step than building the giant Ocean platforms that the Seasteading Institute eventually aims at (which will cost at the very least $50-$100-million dollars, only half a million of which has been raised yet.)

We spent the whole day brainstorming about ideas for how to make this look attractive enough to investors to fund, and listening to talks on the current status of the technology and engineering details. They've teamed up with a group of marine life researchers who are interested in building similar structures to study marine life... although I can't recall the name of their institute right now. We heard some talks from them, and it sounds like the technology side of this is pretty solid. It just might cost a whole lot, so the main problem is coming up with a realistic way to fund it. Ephemerisle is exciting, but also poses a lot of challenges, and suffers from the problem that initially, the demographic is going to be restricted to those who own boats (or can charter a boat or something). All in all, lots of good discussions and I wish the Seasteading Institute well.

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datavortex
Oct. 15th, 2008 02:08 pm (UTC)
See you in Oceania.
peter_bayesian
Oct. 15th, 2008 10:33 pm (UTC)
I tried Miracle Fruit tablets last week, and didn't find it nearly as effective as advertised. But I've only tried eating pomelo (Chinese grapefruit) with it so far. It seemed to reduce the sourness by about half. I bought the tablets through http://www.thinkgeek.com. I wonder if different sources have different quality.
spoonless
Oct. 16th, 2008 04:58 am (UTC)
Well, they say it doesn't do anything for about 1 out of 10 people. So it probably doesn't do much for some people. And it might depend on how you do it... we all made sure to swish it around in our mouths for a long time before swallowing.

I couldn't detect any sourness at all, but a lot of the bitter food still tasted bitter.
mpnolan
Oct. 15th, 2008 11:50 pm (UTC)
Flavor tripping strikes me as something that could lead to more open attitudes to other kinds of substances. Ha, maybe.

The new journal theme is cool!
spoonless
Oct. 16th, 2008 04:56 am (UTC)
ain't nothing like the real thing, baby. (tripping, that is)

The new journal theme is cool!

thanks... you're the first person to mention noticing. I got tired of seeing the same theme year after year.
reichart
Oct. 16th, 2008 02:27 am (UTC)
Start saving your empty plastic milk cartons...
spoonless
Oct. 16th, 2008 04:50 am (UTC)
before I do that, I've got to start buying plastic milk cartons... I usually get the paper kind.
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