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Telephone

This has been my favorite song of 2010 so far... Telephone by Lady Gaga. I also think it is her best (and 2009 was a year where about half of the new songs I liked all turned out to be hers so that's saying a lot! The other half generally turned out to be the Black Eyed Peas). Although the song has been out for months, the video for Telephone just came out. Quenton Tarantino personally loaned her the Pussy Wagon from Kill Bill, so she and Beyonce could ride away in it at the end. I find it a little annoying that the music stops for so long in places to move the plot forward, but overall I think the video deserves two thumbs up:



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According to Fox News, it has already been banned by MTV and will soon be banned by other networks. I guess if MTV bans something, there is no chance it could make it onto Al Jazeera?

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ankh_f_n_khonsu
Mar. 15th, 2010 03:01 am (UTC)
I didn't realize your taste in 'music' was so ... unrefined. :P Gaga? Seriously?
spoonless
Mar. 15th, 2010 03:03 am (UTC)
Hey, I get more shit for being a Britney Spears fan. Gaga at least gets a good amount of respect from most of my friends, I think.

I definitely enjoy a lot of popular music. Also enjoy some more obscure "refined" music, it all depends.
geheimnisnacht
Mar. 15th, 2010 03:34 pm (UTC)
There's a few songs from Gaga I like, so you're up a few steps from Spears on this one. :)

Her lyrics are generally pretty stupid, from what I've seen, however. Pop music has really been pushing the boundaries of...let's call it "lyrical puerility". We're asymptotically approaching songs that simply describe cheap porn.
spoonless
Mar. 15th, 2010 04:18 pm (UTC)

We're asymptotically approaching songs that simply describe cheap porn.


Actually, come to think of it there are two songs that are currently on the radio that annoy me somewhat because of the stupidity (and sexism) of the lyrics.

One of them is the "I've got you open all night like an IHOP" song, where the entire song is comparing a woman's body to fast food:

http://www.timberlake-justin.com/carry-out-timbaland-feat-justin/

And the other one is this one:

http://www.directlyrics.com/akon-sexy-bitch-lyrics.html

"She's nothing like a girl you've ever seen before
Nothing you can compare to your neighbourhood hoe
I'm tryna find the words to describe this girl without being disrespectful
The way that booty movin I can't take no more
Have to stop what i'm doin so I can pull up close
I'm tryna find the words to describe this girl without being disrespectful

Dam girl
Dam you'se a sexy bitch
A sexy bitch
Dam you'se a sexy bitch
Dam girl"

After hearing that I generally just think "FAIL" (regarding the "trying to describe you without being disrespectful)
ankh_f_n_khonsu
Mar. 15th, 2010 03:08 am (UTC)
Hrm... Upon rereading that sounds a little harsher than I'd intended... But then, maybe not. Have you read any critical theory on pop music/culture? Walter Benjamin or Slavoj Žižek, perhaps?
spoonless
Mar. 15th, 2010 03:21 am (UTC)
I haven't, but I really can't imagine that reading a book about music would make me enjoy listening to it any less. I think music is a very visceral art... it either resonates with you when you hear it or not, it doesn't really require a lot of thinking to process. Or if it does for some people, it doesn't work that way for me.
ankh_f_n_khonsu
Mar. 15th, 2010 03:33 am (UTC)
Then that's an indication of a blinder you might want to follow-up on. Informed consumption is always superior to blind or solipsistic consumption, wouldn't you agree?

Let's say two people sit down to have a glass of wine. One of them let's stereotype as 'rabble', whereas the other is a credentialed sommelier. They sit down to share glasses from the same bottle of wine. Will they drink the same wine?

Or, let's directly tie this in with music: let's say we've got two people that sit down to share a dooby and some Jimi Hendrix. One of them, in his ignorance, hears Jimi croon, "Excuse me while I kiss this guy" whereas the seasoned listener hears "Excuse me while I kiss the sky". Are they hearing the same song? Does it matter?
spoonless
Mar. 15th, 2010 03:38 am (UTC)

Are they hearing the same song? Does it matter?

I think you have a valid point, that if you listen to a lot of music your tastes can become "refined" more and it may start to sound different. I'm not sure how reading books would help that though.

As to whether it matters, I guess it depends on what you want to get out of it. For me, lyrics never matter... I don't really listen to them, so "kiss this guy" would be the same as "kiss the sky". A lot of the music I like doesn't have lyrics anyway, it's 99% about the melody for me. I do enjoy vocals, but only for the melodic quality of their voices, not for the words.
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shaktool
Mar. 15th, 2010 03:28 am (UTC)
Would reading critical theory on pop music make me appreciate pop music less? Would it make me appreciate music more overall? Is pop music derivative? Is there anything wrong with being derivative? Is there any music being created now that isn't derivative of something? Is there any accounting for taste?

I never figured out why this video is considered insulting.
ankh_f_n_khonsu
Mar. 15th, 2010 03:35 am (UTC)
Nothing can make you do, feel or believe anything.

As for non-derivative music, yeah, I think there is plenty. You're less likely to hear that on the radio though. ;)
shaktool
Mar. 15th, 2010 03:47 am (UTC)
Alright, first a confession: As a player, I am a video game snob. But as a developer, I definitely try to appeal to people who are not snobs. I'm pretty sure that I appreciate playing video games less overall as a result of being a snob, and that would make me sad if I didn't have so much fun developing them.

And I almost never listen to anything on the radio, but I bet I appreciate it more when I *do*, because it's a relatively novel experience for me!
geheimnisnacht
Mar. 15th, 2010 03:27 pm (UTC)
"Nothing can make you do, feel or believe anything."

That is an absurdly general statement...
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plymouth
Mar. 15th, 2010 07:01 am (UTC)
I would have put it less harshly also, but I must say I'm mystified by the popularity of Lady GaGa. Her music all sounds very generic to me. Her outfits are kinda amusing, as was the video, but that doesn't make up for the music.
mike_b
Mar. 15th, 2010 11:48 pm (UTC)
Do you still like Kid Rock?
spoonless
Mar. 19th, 2010 02:13 am (UTC)
From my profile page (http://spoonless.livejournal.com/profile):

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Favorite movies: Mulholland Drive, Pleasantville, Titanic, The Matrix, 12 Monkeys, Pulp Fiction, Good Will Hunting, Kinsey, The Dark Knight, American Beauty, American History X, Shawshank Redemption, Natural Born Killers, Rocky Horror Picture Show, SLC Punk, Sneakers, The Talented Mr. Ripley, Batman Begins, Usual Suspects, X-Men 2, Donnie Brasco, Chasing Amy, Dirty Dancing, The Princess Bride, Ferris Beuller's Day Off, Stand By Me, Sabrina, Contact, Hackers, Training Day, Magnolia, Amelie, Back to the Future, Labyrinth, Neverending Story, Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, Go, Pump Up the Volume, Fame

Favorite musical artists: Leonard Cohen, Cruxshadows, Madonna, Lords of Acid, Kid Rock, Sinead O Conner, Prodigy, Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins, VNV Nation, Pat Benatar, :wumpscut:, Nine Inch Nails

Favorite songs: Troy by Sinead O'Conner, O Fortuna by Carl Orf, LSD=Truth by Lords of Acid, Dust in the Wind by Kansas, Christfuck by :wumpscut:, Stripped by Depeche Mode, First We Take Manhatten by Leonard Cohen, Just Like You've Imagined by Nine Inch Nails, Keep Hope Alive by The Crystal Method, Plasticity by Front Line Assembly, Rock 'N Roll Nigger by Patti Smith, Me So Horny by 2 Live Crew, Holding Out for a Hero by Bonnie Tyler, Superhero by Ani DiFranco, Disarm by Smashing Pumpkins, Higher State of Consciousness by Josh Wink, Dark Machine by Paul Oakenfold, Lose Yourself by Eminem, Blue by Eifel 65, Smells Like Teen Spirit by Nirvana, White Rabbit by Jefferson Airplane, Miserlou by Dick Dale, Technologique Park by Orbital, 138 by Misfits, Love is a Battlefield by Pat Benatar, This Corrosion by Sisters of Mercy, La Isla Bonita by Madonna, Its Raining Men by The Weather Girls, When I Hear Music by Debbie Deb, Call Me by Blondie, DARE by Gorillaz, Evil Night Together by Jill Tracy, They're Playing Our Song by Trinere, Don't Stop The Rock by Freestyle, Planet Rock by Soul Sonic Force, Alone by Heart, Listen to Your Heart by Roxette, The Power of Love by Frankie Goes to Hollywood

Favorite albums: Mortal Kombat soundtrack, More Kombat, Natural Born Killers soundtrack, :wumpscut:'s Wreath of Barbs, Kid Rock's Devil Without a Cause, Offspring's Smash, Lords of Acid's Voodoo-U, Nirvana's Nevermind, Smashing Pumpkin's Siamese Dream, The Crystal Method's Vegas, Operation Swordfish soundtrack, Prodigy's Fat of the Land

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So yeah, he is still up there among my favorites, and I tried to roughly list the ones I liked the best first... although it has been a pretty long time since I've actually popped in a CD of his, so maybe I should put him further down by now. I think the last time I updated all of this stuff was 4 or 5 years ago.
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