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poppin' the cherry...

My first paper was submitted for publication yesterday, so now it's in the pre-print archives:

Finite size scaling of the correlation length above the upper critical dimension

All based on the work I did this summer, which has nothing to do with my long-term goals for graduate school but paid off very nicely; I had no hand in the actual writing up of the paper, just the research. From what I hear it often takes months and months before they get around to reviewing it and publishing it, but this is the first step. The subclass it was placed in is "disordered systems and neural networks." Ironic, since the system I worked on was neither disordered, nor a neural network!

Two more days of the quarter left, and then I'll have a masters' degree (a nice token on the way to my PhD which is still several years down the road). Between that and the prospects of publication, I'm starting to feel like a real "physicist" rather than a wanna-be member of the field. :) Now if I can just make it through the rest of this hellacious week alive...

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neurochemistry
Dec. 9th, 2004 12:34 am (UTC)
YAY!!!!
fermina
Dec. 9th, 2004 01:54 pm (UTC)
Woo, congrats!!!
burdges
Dec. 9th, 2004 04:31 pm (UTC)
congrats!
Next you gotta write oone thats all yours, or whatever the physics analog of that is (do physicists write solo papers?). After that someone else has to cite it for some reason or other. Neither is going to be that far off though.
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burdges
Dec. 11th, 2004 02:01 am (UTC)
Re: congrats!
I did do most of the work, but he was really the "brains" behind it... he had the ideas, I just basically did what he suggested and it worked out.


It is assumed that your advisor contributes ideas to your papers.. your a graduate student. By training you, your advisor gains another person who works on the stuff he considers important. Its advantageous to an advisors ideas to "sell" his better students, even at the expence of glossing over his own contributions.

There is no notion of first author in mathematics, all authors are listed alphabetically, so I have no personal experience with the issue. However, biologists consider both first and last author to be significant positions, first being the one who did the work, and last being the guy who paid for it.

As for the guy looking for citations, your goal is to conform to the etiquite of your field, have reasons for doing the things you do, and to keep people happy. So ask other faculty about the etiquite. My gut instinct is that, comming from someone at Cambridge, you should look at the three papers, and see if they suggest any minor improvments to your paper.. and thus give you a legitimate reason to add citations.

Jeff
spoonless
Dec. 12th, 2004 01:28 am (UTC)

There is no notion of first author in mathematics, all authors are listed alphabetically, so I have no personal experience with the issue. However, biologists consider both first and last author to be significant positions, first being the one who did the work, and last being the guy who paid for it.

Very interesting about the author ordering. If it works like biology, then this ordering makes perfect sense. On the other hand, if it's just alphabetical it fits too. I've heard conflicting things about physics so I'm not entirely sure about the signifigance. I think the thing I heard that made the most sense was that for a small number of authors like two or three, they put whoever did the most work or had most of the ideas first... and for a large number of authors, which happens often in experimental physics, they just do alphabetical order. But I can't even remember where I heard this. I guess the convention is really up to the publishers so it probably varies from place to place.

My gut instinct is that, comming from someone at Cambridge

Actually, turns out he's at Coventry University, that was a goof on my part. When I first got the email I made a mistake looking him up. Didn't realize it until right after I'd written that to you, and then still mis-spelled it wrong when I tried to correct it. At any rate, I had read one of his papers before and he seems to be one of those who has a lot of intelligent things to say on this particular topic. So I will have to read the others.
spoonless
Dec. 12th, 2004 01:31 am (UTC)

I guess the convention is up to the publishers

By publishers I meant authors, which came out sounding completely different.
burdges
Dec. 12th, 2004 01:41 am (UTC)
author ordering
Actually, author ordering makes far more sense when the endeavor is not all intellectual or when there are a lot of authors, i.e. when there is actual lab work, as its good to single out the guy doing the core bit. For mathematics and other purely intellectual projects, people's egos are far more at risk and you don't want to push people about it.

This is probably part of why mathematicians are so incredibly polite on the academic level.. the other being that a proof can always be checked.
spoonless
Dec. 11th, 2004 01:33 am (UTC)
Re: congrats!
I think the majority of papers published in physics have more than one name on it, typically a professor and a grad student. But solo papers do happen. In my case, I think he was generous in giving me "first author"... I did do most of the work, but he was really the "brains" behind it... he had the ideas, I just basically did what he suggested and it worked out.

Excitingly, I got an email from Ralph Kenna at Covington University yesterday, regarding the paper. He says "Dr Jones [...] May I comment that I find your paper very interesting and I look forward to reading about future studies in this direction". He also mentioned three of his papers which were on similar things so I think part of his motivation for sending an email was to make sure he gets cited. But we did actually cite one of his papers, so I'm not sure. I'm also not sure whether to respond to him or not... normally I would leave it to Peter (my summer advisor) but he just took off on vacation and his email is bouncing back "I'm unreachable" messages!
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